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Post by Dj on Feb 23, 2017 7:55:36 GMT 10
Hey tom,
Can you help me work out % calculations
For 72 lb dog I want to feed some meat, quality 28% kibble and whole meal bread.
So I giving 300 g of 28 kibble, 225 g lean human consumption meat and then balance bread (3/4 slices)
What I am trying to do is incorporate all 3 ingredients and have protein at around 24
Am I close or totally off the mark
Cheers Dj
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Post by Tom Meulman on Feb 25, 2017 5:23:34 GMT 10
Hi DJ,
Really impossible to be accurate in regard to the protein content as even bread has a different protein content depending on its formulation.
Basically you are using 3/4 slices of wholemeal bread to balance the carb/protein content of the 225 g of meat, which sounds OK to me.
What you have to remember is that to get a healthy diet suitable to the work and the physical condition of the dog you need to supply it with sufficient quality protein from a variety of sources such as meat milk and eggs to provide for tissue repair and if required additional muscle building, AND a sufficient variety of carbohydrates from grain, fats, and sugars to supply the energy requirements of the dog for the type of work and stress it's under without it having to burn protein for energy.
The other important point to keep in mind is that when you say "protein" you are actually saying "container" because different proteins contain different amino acids, and it's the amino acids that are actually used by the body. That is why it's so important to provide protein in the diet from a range of ingredients, and that is also why I'm not really in favour of a dry food diet as the protein in these foods are of extremely poor quality, in most instances containing a limited range of amino acids, and because they are cooked and heated to kill the bacteria in the raw ingredients the amino acids from them are not always readily available in the dogs digestive system.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by dj on Mar 2, 2017 23:00:39 GMT 10
thanks Tom,
just to give you example
im feeding one dog 600g raw meat{say between 20/25% protein]}
- 300g carbs-[150g kibble[27%] and 150g bread [13%]]
so my theory is
meat 600 @ 22.5% = 135P
Kibble 150@ 27%= 41P Bread 150@13%= 20P 196P
so 196/900= 22% P
am i on the right track or totally off
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Post by Tom Meulman on Mar 3, 2017 5:55:56 GMT 10
Hi dj,
There is nothing wrong with your calculations, but what you need to ask yourself is, what is the actual nutrient (amino acid) content of that 22% protein? Does it contains the range of essential amino acids required to maintain and improve the health of the greyhound?
Cheers, Tom
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Post by Dj on Mar 6, 2017 20:50:23 GMT 10
Thanks Tom,
I also understand if you change diets it takes a few weeks for dog to adjust etc
But is it ok to fed 2/3 different meals a week- every week. For example all kibble one day- kibble/ meat another- and meat/bread another- I just do it for variety. They are used to all 3 foods I feed
Is that ok or do you see problems- assuming I am feeding same levels of proteins fats etc in the meal
Or it it a case you should stick to one meal type
Thanks
Dj
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Post by Tom Meulman on Mar 7, 2017 3:28:49 GMT 10
Hi Dj,
I have always found it better for the dog not to vary the diets too much as most greyhounds are not only creatures of habit, but their digestive system gets out of balance very easily with dietary changes often causing loose stools. By that I don't mean diarrhea but more the cowplat variety, and in practice it is the consistent firm form of the stools and the colour that gives a good indication just how well the diet is being handled by the dogs digestive system.
Cheers, Tom
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