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Sept 8, 2016 6:58:16 GMT 10
Post by D on Sept 8, 2016 6:58:16 GMT 10
Hey Tom, got test 2 weeks before race -then gave trial which was impressive-
2 weeks later -raced v poor lost 10 lengths failed badly - was out In front- had track to himself no excuses just emptied. His first attempt over that distance was 10 lengths faster a month prior
Got below test done after race ,results are practically identical.
wbc is high but
1- would it be cause to lose 10 lengths 2-what could be the causes
Rbc 8.61 HCT 59.3 HGB 21.4 Mcv 68.9 Mch 24.9 Mchc 36.1 Rdw 18.7 Wbc 6.3 Neu 5.16 Lym 0.76 Mono 0.15 EOS 0.21 Baso 0.02 Plt 193 Mpv 8.3 Pdw 9.6 Pct 0.16
were lost thanks
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Sept 8, 2016 15:21:28 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Sept 8, 2016 15:21:28 GMT 10
Hi D,
There is not much doubt that the dog has an infection, but ten lengths worth? Unlikely, unless it's a low grade urinary tract kidney infection.
When something like that happens you need to ask yourself a few questions, such as:
Was the run where the dog went quick and obviously really exerted himself hard or difficult enough to have caused him a stress problem and/or an injury? Was there anything after that run that indicated the dog was not his happy self, or did he drink a bit more water than usual? Did the dog have enough work prior to the race to ensure he was fit enough to run it out strongly? Did anything happen in the two of three days before the race that was different to the usual routine, and during this time did the dog empty out as normal, and were the droppings of the same consistency as normal?
If nothing comes out of those questions, then it's four days on the lead easy walking only, have the dog thoroughly checked for injuries during this time, and at the end of those four days rest do a full blood profile to double check Neutrophil levels, as well as kidney and liver enzymes to try and ascertain in what part of the body there may be an infection.
Cheers, Tom
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Sept 8, 2016 19:22:10 GMT 10
Post by d on Sept 8, 2016 19:22:10 GMT 10
Thats the thing Tom,
everything was same/normal(obviously not)-well rested, fit etc
they are wormed every month etc but when reading one of your articles you stated:
that tapeworms could be a cause of high wbc and that they dont suck blood therefore the hb/pcv would not be effected but the dog would have no energy as all the nutrients are used by tape
but could this cause a very poor run-10 lengths
the other thing, i feed some salmon and i have since learned that it contains a parasite- i cook it now-could this have an impact on poor performance
im just wondering would these affect a dog by 10 lengths
thank you,
D
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Sept 9, 2016 3:56:07 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Sept 9, 2016 3:56:07 GMT 10
Hi D,
In reality there are only three things that will make a greyhound lose 10 lengths in speed over a specific distance with the track in the same condition. And these are: illness, injury, and failing to chase, and I would assume we can rule out failing to chase.
So that still means a full blood profile that also incorporates tests to check muscle enzymes in the blood, as well as for liver damage, and kidney function.
A thorough check for injuries is also essential, including bone and ligament damage and just not a quick run over to make sure the dog can stretch its legs out. A thorough examination for injuries should take 20 to 25 minutes, and I don't mean the length of the appointment but actual time spent examining the dog as quickly and efficiently as possible.
Cheers, Tom
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Sept 9, 2016 21:49:59 GMT 10
Post by d on Sept 9, 2016 21:49:59 GMT 10
Hi Tom,
chasing mad and injury free( been checked over thoroughly twice). Its defo something internally.
I just cant understand how the hb/pcv etc are v good
you say infection-could you give me a few examples of infections that would be serious enough to do this.
cheers
d
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Sept 10, 2016 6:04:19 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Sept 10, 2016 6:04:19 GMT 10
Hi D,
It's impossible to guess at the location of an infection without anything to go by, and that is why I suggested to have a full profile done that includes liver and kidney function, as well as muscle enzymes to double check for undetected injuries.
The other thing is that if a greyhound is so ill that it loses ten lengths in ability in just a few day there have to be other physical symptoms that should be able to be noted, such as a change in temperament and energy levels.
And believe you me, after forty years of physically checking racing greyhounds for injuries I have never come across a greyhound that had lost ten lengths in ability that did not have visible symptoms of one sort or another, either relating to severe health issues or undetected injuries.
If the person examining your greyhounds isn't finding the cause, find someone else that is more proficient.
Cheers, Tom
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