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Post by TAS on Jul 23, 2014 19:06:22 GMT 10
Hi Tom can you please tell me ,if you where to pick one of your good dogs you trained, what you fed the dog eg, meat, kibble wich vitamins, minerals, and how you would keep it in racing condition week to week. Also if you where training in 2014 would you change any of your feeding patterns considering all the new products their are out their today and would you change your methods of keeping the dog fit |
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Post by Tom Meulman on Jul 23, 2014 22:09:44 GMT 10
Hi Tom can you please tell me ,if you where to pick one of your good dogs you trained, what you fed the dog eg, meat, kibble wich vitamins, minerals, and how you would keep it in racing condition week to week. Also if you where training in 2014 would you change any of your feeding patterns considering all the new products their are out their today and would you change your methods of keeping the dog fit sorry TAS, but answering a multi facit question such as that would take me too long, would involve about 3 pages worth of typing, and is well beyond the scope of this web site. However having said that, the answers to most your questions are here spread out amongst various posts, it's just a mater of finding them by reading the various subjects. In regard to "new products" if you are referring to the so called premium dry foods on the market that are supposed to be the total answer to feeding your racing greyhound, I consider them real bad news, and the equivalent of a human athlete eating nothing but take away food. In regard to training methods, nothing has changed, as there are no shortcuts to preparing any athlete to perform to the best of their ability. Cheers, Tom |
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Post by TAS on Jul 23, 2014 23:00:58 GMT 10
thank you for your response tom, in regards to the new products I was referring to, I was talking about the new range of vitamins and minerals.In regard to kibble would wholemeal bread be a better option to use.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Jul 24, 2014 5:27:57 GMT 10
Hi TAS,
This where it gets difficult because during my most successful training years I never ever added any commercially produced vitamin mixture to the diet of my greyhounds, and really consider all of it a waste of money.
The diet at that time consisted of beef, a low protein crushed biscuit kibble, calcium in the form of DCP, a small amount of full cream milk powder, a very small amount of cod liver oil, and a minuscule amount of sea weed meal.
One of the manufacturers of additives to the racing industry wanted me to endorse a new vitamin and mineral mixture for racing greyhounds that they had placed on the market, and provided me with a quantity of it to add to the diet of my greyhounds. Well I did this for 2 months, and then gave any remaining mixture away as it made no difference at all to the performances of my greyhounds. In fact I felt that the health and coat condition of a couple of my greyhounds deteriated slightly, but that could have been a coincidence.
What is far more important in any diet than added vitamins, is to have the balance of protein, carbohydrates, and fats spot on for the workload and physical condition for that specific greyhound, and to ensure that the digestability of the food provided is as good as it can possibly be, so that the full benefit of that food is gained by the greyhound.
Cheers,
Tom
PS. Nothing wrong with wholemeal bread as part of the carbohydrates supplied in a particular diet.
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Post by TAS on Jul 24, 2014 17:42:18 GMT 10
Thank you Tom for your advice I will try using wholemeal bread for the carbohydrates side of the diet, and look up the balance between protein, carbohydrates and fat on this site
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Post by TASS on Aug 1, 2014 16:22:27 GMT 10
hi Tom can you tell me what you think of musashi products such as MUSASHI immune -L arginine-monohydrate-L arginine-L glutamine-methionine and any other musashi products that can benefit the health and performance in the racing greyhound.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Aug 1, 2014 19:11:25 GMT 10
Hi TASS,
Sorry mate but will not get drawn into discussing these types of products as in my honest opinion no matter what brand, they are far too expensive and have no medically proven benefits.
Yes I personally have tried a range of the Musashi products that are supposed to improve athletic performance as I was involved in bike racing, and found no discernible benefits in these improving my own cycling performances.
Good natural well balanced food coupled with the right exercise at the appropriate time will do much more to improve an athletes performance than anything else you can give them, other than the illegal PED's of course
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by TASS on Aug 1, 2014 20:00:46 GMT 10
no worries mate just trying to learn as much as I can
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Post by TAS on Aug 3, 2014 0:00:00 GMT 10
hi Tom its me again, what would be the best way to take weight off a dog without affecting its health. Also I have tried to access some of your older threads and unfortunately it takes me to pro boards do you know how to overcome the issue.Thanks in advance.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Aug 3, 2014 6:16:35 GMT 10
Hi TASS,
To access the oldest posts go to the top of each individual board where on the left hand side it lists the number of pages available on each board, and then by either using the navigation buttons on each side, or by simply clicking on the page number, it will take you to the oldest available posts.
In regard to losing weight ......... there the situation is no different to weight loss in humans.
It needs to be done slowly by maintaining a well balanced diet and just reducing total daily food intake by 10%, and then increasing total daily exercise by 10%. Re-evaluate the situation after ten days, and make further adjustments to the diet only.
Having said that, you need to be absolutely certain that weight loss is required and warranted in improving the welbeing and therefore the athletic performances of the greyhound.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by Jason on Sept 16, 2014 22:08:47 GMT 10
Tom - when you were racing and feeding beef, what was the fat percentage in the beef you used? I'm thinking mine is on the lean side although I am feeding a pretty high fat kibble. Nevertheless I would be interested to know what beef type you used to use since I can never be certain of the fat asbsorption or quality provided by the kibble.
Cheers, Jason
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Post by Tom Meulman on Sept 17, 2014 15:05:51 GMT 10
Hi Jason,
I was assured by my meat suppliers over the years that as requested the fat percentage of the beef I purchased was as close to 10% as they could get it. Unfortunately in this I had to be guided by my meat suppliers as I found it difficult to judge the fat content myself except when it was obvious that it was too lean or too fatty.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by TAS on Dec 1, 2014 23:05:18 GMT 10
Hi tom I have a bitch iam training and I cant get her blood count up it is 54.I took her to the vet she has no infections and he recommended 1ml of hip iron 1m of b12 3ml of b complex 1.5 ml of folic acid once a week for two weeks and also luiquid iron every second day in the feed.she has been kept on the lead for three weeks while treating her. so I went and got another blood test done to see if her blood count went up it was the same 54.Tom iam baffled what can I do to increase her blood count.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Dec 2, 2014 5:37:49 GMT 10
Hi TAS,
That is a frustrating situation when it occurs!
All I can advise you to do is not to worry about the blood count for the next 4 weeks, put the girl back into light work to get some fitness back, and to give her a injection of Ferrocyl twice a week for those 4 weeks.
The Ferrocyl formula is designed to stimulate red blood cell production by the body, and in the situation you find yourself in can often do the job.
The product itself is quite a clever formulation as it contains Sodium Cocodelate wich is a very effective form of arsenic but it is a poison, and the antidote for this poison is Ferric Chloride which provides the iron component of the formula.
While it is listed as a intramuscular injection it is best injected under the skin low on the neck providing that is done correctly. The dosage for a 25 to 30 kg dog is 2-1/2 ml every three to four days.
However I would recommend that this is done for a maximum of 4 weeks only as the arsenic does build up in the body. If further treatments are required stop the injections for a minimum of 2 weeks before doing so.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by TAS on Dec 2, 2014 18:05:17 GMT 10
Thank you Tom I will try ferrocyl for a month and let you know how I go.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Dec 2, 2014 19:36:05 GMT 10
Hi TAS,
What I forgot to mention is that if you use this product make sure that the greyhound does not suffer from any dehydration symptoms. My concern is that when you have a greyhound with a unresponsive anaemia the cause may be related to kidney problems. Mainly because the kidneys are largely responsible for the production of EPO, and as you can understand that this results in anaemia. Ferrocyl may under those conditions increase the load on the kidneys.
The other result that you may find is that the greyhound could chase a little harder while on the Ferrocyl blood building medication, and may suffer from increased stress as a result. So take it very easy with her for the first few runs back behind the lure.
Also while she is on this medication do not add any other form of iron supplements to the diet, and of course no iron injections.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by TAS on Dec 4, 2014 0:56:14 GMT 10
No problem Tom.
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Post by tas on Jan 4, 2015 2:30:01 GMT 10
Tom does ferrocyl swab
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Post by Tom Meulman on Jan 4, 2015 15:39:11 GMT 10
Hi TAS, Not as far as I know, however to be on the safe side in regard to the Cocodelate allow four clear days after the last injection before racing. I have used the same injection at various times as close as the night before racing and it never caused a positive swab, but then the testing methods have certainly improved a considerable amount over the past five or six years. Cheers, Tom |
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Post by Rob on Sept 30, 2015 18:51:17 GMT 10
Hi Tom
My dogs are over weight and in pre-training , Iv`e just cut back there food a bit, how long do think before I start to see the results on the trial track.
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