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Post by Mike on Dec 13, 2013 10:49:53 GMT 10
Hi Tom,
I have a dog that takes 10-14 days to recover from a '500' run - He chases his backside off and leaves nothing in the tank.
I can sometimes squeeze two week to week runs out of him but if I go back a 3rd week he doesn't begin and races 'flat' then he needs two weeks before racing again.
I live in a house block so I don't have access to gallop him between runs. He gets 20 minutes morning and night on the walking machine.
I'm supplementing him with Foliphos every 2nd or 3rd run (48 hours before race), L- Carnitine weekly, Iron once a month and Tripart as soon as I can after a run and again the next day.
He also gets some Vytrate before and after a run.... And milky water with a 4x2 for the next couple of days after.
Is there anything else you can recommend that I do for him to get him to stand up to the racing / Recover faster?
I've been reading about DADA 250 - Tridenison - Cophos-B - Mitochondrial?
Thanks.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Dec 13, 2013 20:37:27 GMT 10
I’m sorry Mike but to train a greyhound in that manner is simply causing the greyhound massive stress as when it does race it has no fitness at all. Walking on a walking machine simply stops the greyhound from going stir crazy from being locked up in a kennel 7 days a week, and does absolutely nothing in gaining or maintaining any sort of fitness for racing and no matter what injection you give the greyhound you cannot make up for lack of fitness training. Please have a read of THIS POSTCheers, Tom |
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Post by Mike on Dec 13, 2013 21:16:24 GMT 10
With all due respect Tom I totally disagree in this instance.
I've read that article trying to come up with ways to help him (and plenty of others on here too).
I think you summed it up in this paragraph.
"Keeping in mind that all greyhounds are different, and have different tolerance levels. What will be an acceptable routine for one may totally destroy the next greyhound" I wouldn't train a "normal" dog this way.
I've tried galloping him between runs and it doesn't work - the dog goes flat. He's the type of dog that can run a strong 500 fresh. I'm asking for advice Hoping to help him to recover faster so he can race week to week which will have a two fold benefit, he'll get fitter with consistent racing and hopefully recover better with more running.The dogs in great nick and has been unplaced twice in 10 starts for me. He finishes off his races he doesn't lead and fall in a hole.
I hope I haven't come across rude Tom. Because I respect your knowledge and love the information that I can get off here.
Cheers.
Mike.
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Post by Tom Meulman on Dec 14, 2013 13:20:43 GMT 10
Mike,
I’m sorry my friend but I can’t help you in this instance, as for me prior to actually racing a greyhound over 500 metres, I have to be totally satisfied that the greyhound will run this distance at his/her top speed without stressing or having any problems recovering.
For some greyhounds this may even require an extended training program covering a couple of months, to take them from low fitness to near enough to race fit.
Fitness is gained in extremely small steps, and is a progressive process that unfortunately includes the scenario that any excessive hard sessions will in fact require a longer recovery period before the next exercise can be undertaken, and this will therefore cause a temporary reduction in fitness. Which in turn will require the trainer to start the greyhound back at a shorter distance again before any further gains in fitness can be obtained.
The other unfortunate aspect of excessive exertion is that the large quantity of waste products produced by this excessive exertion, which is the direct result from not being fit enough in the first place, will over time severely damage the kidneys, and that in itself will further reduce the recovery rate.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by Mike on Dec 14, 2013 17:15:14 GMT 10
No worries Tom... The dogs training program suits him and his form says that. I'm comfortable with what I'm doing, the point of me asking your advice was to further help the dog if I could but that's all good.... I'll read up and come to my own conclusion.
Thanks for your time.
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