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Jun 21, 2013 20:40:07 GMT 10
Post by Joseph on Jun 21, 2013 20:40:07 GMT 10
Dear Tom,
I have a dog thats HB is 16. Can you tell me how many iron injections would bring this back to 20. I have already given 1 ml in muscle 6 days ago and was going to give 1 ml tomorrow, is this enough or should i give a third shot (i.e 3 ml in 3 weeks) thank you Joe
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Jun 23, 2013 7:49:24 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Jun 23, 2013 7:49:24 GMT 10
Hi Joe,
Just to be sure I would give the dog a third injection as well. It is quite often worthwhile to also inject B12 and Folic Acid.
Keep in mind that it takes 21 days for a red blood cell to mature, and it does take time for the various blood component values to return to normal.
Cheers,
Tom
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Jun 24, 2013 6:38:32 GMT 10
Post by Joseph on Jun 24, 2013 6:38:32 GMT 10
Thanks Tom, I am also giving 2 ml b12 folic acid once a week for 4/5 weeks.I was not sure if i was over doing thing between iron and b12. I also understand that galloping will trigger red cell production so after 3 weeks start bringing him back slowly. In your expert opinion is this correct ?
Tom, on a different issue you guys down under give massive amounts of raw meat. why is it were so different, over here in ireland and uk if you gave your dog that amount we would be always having problem( my own experience and some trainers)-i tried it myself years ago red meat and the white e etc etc and had nothing but problems yet when i cut the red meat and cooked it sometimes, dogs had less problems and saw no decrease in performance, just curious more than anything
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Jun 25, 2013 5:41:52 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Jun 25, 2013 5:41:52 GMT 10
Hi Joseph,
As far as the treatment for the blood is concerned you are pretty well on the right track, and depending on the original cause, it should correct itself when the dog goes back into light work.
In regard to diets containing large amounts of raw meat; the real problem is that far too often the protein/carbohydrate balance goes out of whack, and then the type of meat being used can also affect the outcome.
The problems start occurring when a large quantity of meat is fed with a high protein dry food, or one that has been formulated to be a complete balanced meal, this than forces the dogs body to use protein for energy instead of carbohydrate. The use of ox cheek or other head meat instead of muscle meat increases the undesirable effects on the kidneys of feeding a too high a protein diet.
In most instances those trainers here in Australia that race their greyhounds successfully on a high content meat diet do so by using a somewhat fatty meat often combined with chicken, and use bread or an extremely low protein dry food instead of nuts or pellets to bring the protein/carb balance back to the optimum.
Cheers,
Tom
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