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Post by Dave Lonergan on Mar 7, 2012 3:08:52 GMT 10
hi tom
Tom i own perhaps the best pup in ireland this year his name is Dragon Shield his race is on the greyhound data..well on his debut he did 28.34 3 lengths off track record broke like a bullet and pulled away from field won by 6 lengths...nothing was close enough to interfere with him except maybe at pick up...but anyways his right metacarpal on right front leg was very sore next day my trainer is Pat Buckley probably Irelands best he thought the pain was metacarpal first or the accessory carpal joint maybe the dreaded injury in your thread... we took dog to john o'connor a top vet and took xrays he has an inflamed accessory carpal joint ..no tears no fractures or anything need to be rested and massaged so dog will return to the track in 3 months or so. it was x rayed everything was clean just sore and some inflammation..
i guess we dodged a bullet as always i would like to hear your thoughts on this..as far as treatment and severity of this situation...he is booked into see Ray Cuddahy on thursday for second opinion but would love to hear yours even though you can't examine him
thanks in advance Dave
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Post by Tom Meulman on Mar 7, 2012 8:14:10 GMT 10
Hi Dave,
I’m pleased to read that the injury is not severe, and is mainly due to inflammation at the top of the metacarpal.
However it should be kept in mind that inflammation to the bone surfaces in this area can only occur if the wrist is flexed too far forward as this causes the top front edge of the metacarpal to press against the Unciform bone that is located directly above it.
The most likely scenario for this to occur is when the dog has all its weight on the right front limb while pulling up and is hit from behind.
When this happens it overstretches the ligaments that hold the stopper bone stable, and it mainly affects the accessory carpal ligament, which is a strong ligament that runs from the stopperbone to the back of the fifth metacarpal.
For that reason it is important to also treat the area at the back of the wrist directly below the stopperbone with ultrasound in water + applying a strong liniment after each treatment for at least four treatments, or applying a strong liniment twice daily for three days, resting three days and then repeating the treatment.
It is certainly not an uncommon injury here in Australia due to the design of our catching pens, and when treated appropriately has no effect on future performances.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by dave l on Mar 7, 2012 9:34:57 GMT 10
thanks an awful lot tom..he will get the best care from Pat Buckley i'm 100% sure and i will share your post with him aswell
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Post by dave lonergan on Aug 15, 2012 8:13:59 GMT 10
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Post by Tom Meulman on Aug 15, 2012 10:58:16 GMT 10
Hi Dave,
Congratulations mate that is a brilliant result!
There is no doubt that patience when it comes to injuries and allowing sufficient recovery time is so important.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by daveeeeeeeeee on Nov 30, 2013 5:08:38 GMT 10
LUMBER VERTABRAE BEST CURE
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Post by Tom Meulman on Dec 1, 2013 20:50:00 GMT 10
LUMBER VERTEBRAE BEST CURE ? ? ? ? Tom
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Post by daveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee on Dec 3, 2013 8:38:29 GMT 10
im bk tom was told dog over streched Vertibrea Problems sorry bout spelling
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Post by Tom Meulman on Dec 3, 2013 17:15:40 GMT 10
Hi Dave,
In most instances the pain in the spine is caused by muscle spasms pulling the spine very very slightly out out alignment.
Unless there is swelling and/or fluid in the area it is still best treated with hot packs, massage to both sides of the vertebrae, and very gentle manipulation, and depending on the outcome of this treatment, possibly a week of walking only.
If there is swelling, fluid, or excessive heat in an area of the spine it is a completely different ball game, as this would require ice packs and highly likely a trip to the Vet and X rays to make sure there is no bone damage.
If any of the fluid or swelling is caused by soft tissue damage only, it would still require follow up treatment, once the area has settled down, with something like ultrasound or laser therapy to speed up the healing of the muscle damage.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by daveeeeeeeeeeeeeeee on Dec 4, 2013 4:42:06 GMT 10
Thanks tom
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Post by Brian Young on Jan 20, 2014 11:13:55 GMT 10
Hi Tom , I use an electroc magnet mat for my dogs. I have heard it can cause dehydration so I only give each dog 10min on it daily can you give me some advice on this and is it a worth while tool to help in the recovery of the dogs?
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Post by Tom Meulman on Jan 20, 2014 12:49:27 GMT 10
Hi Brian,
I have no problems with a pulsed magnetic field being used on the dogs on a daily basis if it is kept to no more than 10 minutes every 24 hours if the dogs whole body is to be radiated.
The reason it is implicated with dehydration is that it increases the loss of all electrolytic ions including potassium from the body.
While I personally limited the use of pulsed magnetic field treatment to just bone and ligament injuries, some trainers have had great success with using the magnetic mat on the high frequency setting for 20 minutes after a hard run to aid recovery.
However because I have had no personal experience in this regard it is difficult for me to recommend such use. In fact when using pulsed magnetic field to treat bone injuries I did everything I could to stop it also radiating the dogs kidneys and liver.
The reason for this is that during the early experiments I did when these devices first appeared as a treatment option for racing injuries, I placed a magnetic treatment mat under the bedding of one of my greyhounds, turning it on for 30 minutes four times daily. In other words this greyhound was exposed to a pulsed magnetic field everyday for 2 hours.
The end result of that was that after one week of this exposure the greyhound who could run a strong 500 metres was cramping after running only 300 metres, even though he was supplied with the appropriate electrolytes in the diet.
It took a four week spell for the greyhound to recover fully, and I was a lot more careful as to how I used a pulsed magnetic treatment device on my greyhounds after that experience.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by Brian Young on Jan 20, 2014 13:10:54 GMT 10
Thank you very much for your reply. I am glad I found your Web Sight as I was concidering increaing the use of but now I may only use it the day after a run for recovery purposes . Does the same principal apply to the back pack cyliner type machine? I have been using this daily as well so I may have been on the wrong track. I usually used this prior to working the dogs . Maybe this is not a good practise either/ Really appreciate your time and effort. This is the most informative area for information i have ever seen and i realise the years of study you must have put in to aquire this profound knowledge
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Post by Tom Meulman on Jan 20, 2014 18:20:24 GMT 10
Hi Brian,
Those machines use a far lower level of magnetic field strength and therefore do not affect the kidneys or liver to any great extent and would be of some benefit in improving blood flow to the surface of the muscle tissue prior to exercise.
Cheers, Tom
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