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Post by dj on Feb 29, 2012 10:57:19 GMT 10
hi tom,
i would like your opinion please on suppressing a bitch for racing
1-any effect on the bitch and her racing etc
2-after as a brood
thanks
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Post by Tom Meulman on Feb 29, 2012 15:42:45 GMT 10
Hi dj,
Sorry mate but I'm really not really keen to provide any advice in this area, as there is a huge difference as to how various bitches from various blood lines react to being kept of season.
I have known large numbers of bitches that have been kept off season with very small weekly quantities of Testosterone Propionate and have gone on to have good sized litters, and yet others where the same injections resulted in cysts on the ovaries and no chance of ever becoming a good broody, and others that never came on season again after their racing career was over.
If you are absolutely certain that you or anyone else will never ever wish to breed with a specific bitch, 1/4 of a ml of Testoprop injected weekly will keep them off season and in most instances will make her chase a little harder and stand up to stress a little better.
However if it is a bitch from a good litter forget about keeping her off season, as the risk of destroying her as a worthwhile Dam are too great.
The other thing to keep in mind is that there is some evidence that anabolic steroids could affect the DNA, and therefore it is possible that using such substances to keep a bitch off season could result in inferior quality litters compared to if it had not been used.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by Karl on Jun 5, 2012 17:02:48 GMT 10
Hi dj, Sorry mate but I'm really not really keen to provide any advice in this area, as there is a huge difference as to how various bitches from various blood lines react to being kept of season. I have known large numbers of bitches that have been kept off season with very small weekly quantities of Testosterone Propionate and have gone on to have good sized litters, and yet others where the same injections resulted in cysts on the ovaries and no chance of ever becoming a good broody, and others that never came on season again after their racing career was over. If you are absolutely certain that you or anyone else will never ever wish to breed with a specific bitch, 1/4 of a ml of Testoprop injected weekly will keep them off season and in most instances will make her chase a little harder and stand up to stress a little better. However if it is a bitch from a good litter forget about keeping her off season, as the risk of destroying her as a worthwhile Dam are too great. The other thing to keep in mind is that there is some evidence that anabolic steroids could affect the DNA, and therefore it is possible that using such substances to keep a bitch off season could result in inferior quality litters compared to if it had not been used. Cheers, Tom G'day Tom, Is there anyway to test if testaprop is affecting a bitch, causing the cysts and so forth. cheers Karl |
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Post by speedrow on Jul 22, 2012 12:14:52 GMT 10
hey tom if a bitch is spayed to stop it coming on season would it effects its performance?
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Post by Tom Meulman on Jul 22, 2012 17:22:52 GMT 10
Hi Robert,
Except for the extremely rare instance where the bitch has been left with painful internal scar tissue as a result of the operation, there should be no detrimental effects at all on race track performances.
However keep in mind that it may be more difficult to control weight gains in a spayed racing bitch.
Cheers,
Tom
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Post by speedrow on Jul 22, 2012 19:52:54 GMT 10
THANKS, had a bitch that came in season and full milk 3 times in approx 16 months .
Had the ability of a grade 5 dog but fought thru every product to keep her off.
To late now but would have been interesting.
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