tridenosen

Hi Phillip,

Both Tridenosen and Kynoselen are very similar in their effects on the dog.

Personally I prefer using these types of products as an aid to recovery after a hard run, simply because the quicker a greyhound recovers the better prepared its body is for the next run.

If the greyhound is less than ideally fit or suffers from stress or dehydration, injecting either product prior to running can have a beneficial effect in allowing the greyhound to run that little bit further before it runs out of energy.

Because the minimal effective dose is 2-1/2 ml in each back leg (total of 5 ml) and the possible damaging effects, and likelihood of pain at the injection sites, my preference is to inject 72 hours prior to running to give these areas some time to recover.

As far as an improvement in performance is concerned, the most pronounced effect will be in a dog that is already suffering some type of stress problem, while in a healthy and fit greyhound the only effect will be better and faster recovery after the run.

Cheers,
Tom

Hi Donna,

Tridenosen is to be injected either into the muscle tissue or via a very slow intravenous injection.

Because I worry about the intramuscular injection causing pain at the injection site and the possible detrimental effect this may have on a greyhounds race performance if given too close to the race I have generally advised to give the last injection 72 hours or no less than 48 hours prior to racing.

At the same time if you are comfortable giving intravenous injections it would be of some advantage using the product 24 hours prior to racing.

In regard to post race recovery depending on the greyhounds condition 2 ml may be sufficient.

Cheers,
Tom

Hi Donna,

Use Tridenosen intramuscular 2 ml in each back leg at 48 hours prior, and Foliphos subcutaneously 2 ml at the lower end of the neck the night before.

Cheers,
Tom

Mitachondral Injection

A lot of claims made that have very little basis in factual research, would I use it? Highly unlikely.

Cheers,
Tom

Hi Marwan,

There is nothing in Tridenosen that will cause a positive swab here in Australia and the swabbing procedures here are extremely strict. Based on that you should be pretty safe using Tridenosen at 48 hours prior to racing.

Cheers,
Tom

Hi Marwan,

Mate I'm sorry to say that your greyhound was not fit enough for the effort it made and has stressed as a result.

If possible the dog should go to a vet or at the very least should have more IV fluids, and another 2ml of Tridenosen in each back leg ASAP.

Watch the dog carefully over the next two days to ensure it does not progress to acidosis and severe dehydration, and ensure that there is sufficient potassium in the diet.

Cheers,
Tom

Hi Hassan,

It is a bit of a worry to me that you feel the need to use all these injections and substances because they all only have a very minor positive effect, if any effect at all. On top of that there is always a very real chance that any and all of these substances can have bad side effects.

Such as:
Tridenosen may cause the dog to feel dizzy, DADA 250 can also have the same effect. Creatiine may in some instances cause diarrhea, while a badly injected dose of coforta can leave a nasty sore in the skin of the neck.

Anyway if you must.
Tridenosen either injected into the muscle tissue 2 ml into each hind leg at 48 hours or 4 ml very slow IV at 24 hours.
DADA 250 1 ml into the chest muscle at 24 hours prior. The reason for using the chest muscle is that this injection can often cause a bruise and the soft chest muscle is least affected by this if it occurred. NOTE: DADA 250 should NEVER be injected intravenously, even when mixed with other substances.
Coforta 2 ml injected on each side under the skin of the lower part of the neck at 24 hours, that is 4 ml in total. Ensure that the needle is actually under the skin and not into the layers of the inner skin layer.
In regard to Creatiine you should be able to give the dog 5 g of pure Creatiine in its main meal each day for the three days leading up to the race to boost body levels sufficiently to assist muscle function.
If the dog is running in humid or warm conditions it may also be of some value to increase the potassium supplement in the evening meal the night before the race to two Slow K tablets.

Cheers,
Tom

Edit: please keep in mind that it is best if no injections of any description are given on the actual day of the race, that is nothing at all other than a nutritious breakfast, and ensure that the dog is fully hydrated by increasing the liquid in its main meal the night before as well as additional fluid in its breakfast.

Hi Hassan,

This is something that is individual to each greyhound, some begin slow and finish fast, some begin fast and then finish slow because they run out of energy. Then you have champion dogs that begin fast run fast and still finish fast.

Nothing you can do about this.

If you have a dog that is not a champion you have to be happy with what it is able to do if you have it ready and trained properly. It is up to the trainer to prepare a dog in such a way that it is able to produce the very best it is capable of.

If you give a dog a stimulant that makes it more excited it will begin faster, but then it will use more energy early in the race and it will not finish on but stop very quickly. Not good, and will more than likely cause damage to the dog that can not be healed.

Cheers,
Tom

When using kynoselen while conditioning for a race. Do you give after every work out up until race or weekly up until race?