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Nov 24, 2010 18:57:33 GMT 10
Post by Glenn on Nov 24, 2010 18:57:33 GMT 10
Hello
I would just like to ask if anyone has had a pup (bitch) be only 21kg at 11 months of age? I am in this position & am undecided whether to give her away or persevere & see if she grows more. What are peoples thoughts? Should she grow much more, will she be a racing or breeding prospect? Any advice would be appreciated.
Regards
Glenn
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Nov 25, 2010 6:13:58 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Nov 25, 2010 6:13:58 GMT 10
Hi Glen,
The smallest bitch that I raced successfully raced around the 22.8 to 23.2 kg; however she could certainly run quick, and won her share of races including wins at Sandown Park. She also had two litters with me and produced city winners in both litters.
Yes 21 kg is small, but seeing you have gone this far, I would certainly continue on and break her in, in another month or two just to see what ability she has.
Size really does not matter that much, it’s what between their ears that counts.
Tom
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Nov 25, 2010 11:02:53 GMT 10
Post by Glenn on Nov 25, 2010 11:02:53 GMT 10
Thanks Tom
In your opinion, is it likely she will grow anymore?
I was thinking of leaving her in the paddock longer than usual to see if she gains a bit more weight.
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Nov 25, 2010 13:10:50 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Nov 25, 2010 13:10:50 GMT 10
Hi Glen,
As a normal rule, growth as far as size is concerned, usually finishes at around 11 months of age for bitches. At that stage most of the growth plates finish closing and bones no longer grow in length but simply strengthen.
Weight gains on the other hand depend more upon muscle structure and muscular development, and this development depends upon both diet and specific exercises.
In your shoes I would probably leave her until she was 13 months of age and then break her in.
Cheers, Tom
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Nov 25, 2010 14:02:42 GMT 10
Post by Glenn on Nov 25, 2010 14:02:42 GMT 10
Thanks for the advice
I imagine then she might get to 22.5kg with some work under her belt. Pretty tiny but like you said, i may as well keep going with her.
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Jul 16, 2011 11:45:57 GMT 10
Post by glenn on Jul 16, 2011 11:45:57 GMT 10
just an update to this little bitch
she 'grew' to become 26.5kg! And i think what you said was correct Tom, it was mostly gained through muscle development as she had none when she came back from rearer.
Known as "Haberdashery", her pics can be viewed on g data
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Jul 16, 2011 12:58:24 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Jul 16, 2011 12:58:24 GMT 10
Hi Glenn, thanks for the update.
I’m really pleased for you that she grew to a decent body size and judging from the photos she looks brilliant and she is certainly bred to be real quick.
I hope you have a lot of fun with her.
Cheers, Tom
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Aug 7, 2011 17:38:43 GMT 10
Post by Glenn on Aug 7, 2011 17:38:43 GMT 10
Hi Tom
I apologise for posting a new subject on this thread but I was not able to post a new thread as a guest nor could I register a new account.
Anyhow, my question relates to pannus. I have a bitch on season whose last litter ended up having clouded eyes. As I did not see the last litter first hand I listened to what the rearer said & he reckons he was told the pups caught a virus & consequently had clouded vision....after speaking to many other greyhound people they have said to me that it sounded like pannus.
My question is....if it was pannus & it came from the bitch (the sire of first litter was ahane lad), is there any blood test I can get done to see if she would pass on pannus?? She doesnt show any signs of the condition herself, and I havent found any worthy literature to suggest anything either way.
Your help would be much obliged as I wouldnt want to breed with a bitch if she will pass this affliction onto the pups.
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Aug 8, 2011 17:56:26 GMT 10
Post by Tom Meulman on Aug 8, 2011 17:56:26 GMT 10
Hi Glenn,
If you are absolutely certain that your broody shows no sign of pannus herself, then it is extremely unlikely that she would pass this immune related genetic disease on to her pups.
In relation to the pups in her first litter having suffered “cloudy” eyes I suspect that the cause for this could have been some sort of viral infection, such as infectious hepatitis.
Unfortunately there is no simple test available that I’m aware of that is able to test for latent pannus other than those tests done to confirm this disease in those dogs suffering some form of blindness.
However having her eyes carefully examined by your Vet is certainly worthwhile, and would help to set your mind at rest before breeding another litter with her.
Cheers, Tom
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