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Post by Tom Meulman on Aug 24, 2013 7:48:55 GMT 10
Hi Ray,
The easiest way to maintain an old injury such as the repaired stopper bone damage your boy appears to have is to apply a poultice overnight for one night only after each run behind the lure.
The liniment I found the best for this was iodized oil as it also contains Methyl Salicylate and this acts as a low grade pain relief and anti inflammatory agent. (MR Iodine or Oldtimers Iodine)
The method consisted of cutting a section of cotton wool wrap just long enough to go around the wrist comfortably. Splitting off a thin section, smothering that with iodized oil, rubbing iodized oil into the wrist area right around, and then wrapping the thin section of cotton wool with the iodized oil around the wrist, tucking some of it into the hollow at the back of the wrist above the stopper bone.
Cover with the rest of the cotton wool and a section of self adhesive wrap such as Vetwrap, and just leaving it on overnight.
In some instances it may be best to muzzle the dog overnight while the bandage is on.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by Ray Jones on Aug 24, 2013 19:53:09 GMT 10
Tom, Sounds a good way to go,I will try that. Cheers Ray
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Post by ray on Mar 17, 2019 2:39:05 GMT 10
hi tom how common is it to do both stoppers at the same time
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Post by Tom Meulman on Mar 17, 2019 5:20:14 GMT 10
hi tom how common is it to do both stoppers at the same time Hi Ray, That certainly doesn’t sound good as stopper bone injuries can be difficult and time consuming to repair, and yes it is unusual for a greyhound to damage both wrists at the same time. However various actions by the greyhound during training can increase the likelyhood, such as being pulled around by the lure and digging the feet in and pulling backward. Or a situation can occur where a greyhound is free galloping in a short yard up and down repeatedly and pulling up suddenly on a too hard a surface at each end of the yard. Then off course it is possible that an individual greyhound can have a genetic weakness in the wrist joints exposing the stopper bones of both wrists to an increased likelyhood of injuries. Cheers, Tom
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Post by ray m on May 22, 2019 20:26:01 GMT 10
hi tom the dog previously spoken about with both stopper injuries actually pulled both tendons off the stoppers going up a straight track both were operated on and stitched back right one being the worse been 8 wks since opp and now back in work machine walking then will start free galloping in small yard treating wih dmso 2-3days 3days off bone radiol 3days on 3off for 2 sessions then 7days nothing then blister I don't no of his chances of making it back but on looks confident ps was a very fast dog 29.5 sandown wet track worth the trouble your opinion on recovery thankyou
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Post by Tom Meulman on May 23, 2019 5:24:59 GMT 10
Hi ray m,
Without having been able to know exactly how severe the tendon damage was, it’s impossible for me to judge just how well It will stand up to the rigors of racing. Your vet who did the surgical repair is in a far better position to judge how severe the injury was and the chances of a continued racing career.
I am however a little confused in regard to the DMSO/bone radiol treatment idea as DMSO (Dimethyl Sulfoxide) is primarily a chemical substance that acts as a very efficient solvent for other substances. When it’s applied to the skin it penetrates rapidly, and while this has a somewhat anti inflammatory action, it will take whatever is on the skin, or whatever is mixed with it, through the layers of skin.
Because it is able to do this it’s often added to other anti inflammatory substances to improve their efficiency.
However problems occur when there is something on the skin surface such as a liniment which is formulated to create heat on the surface of the skin with only very minimal penetration. Even when the residue of the liniment has dried out some of these chemicals will still be there, and then when DMSO is applied are highly likely to get taken in through the layers of skin.
A rather risky procedure as I have seen occasions where this has resulted in small sections of skin slouching off creating a difficult to heal injury.
DMSO is best left as a treatment in situations where it may be useful as a low grade anti inflammatory and a dispersant in order to return the tissue it’s applied to very quickly to the state it would be in if no treatments had taken place for about 7 days. Or in other words as close as possible to normal.
Cheers, Tom
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Post by raym on May 23, 2019 12:12:24 GMT 10
thankyou tom I will go back to liniment daily while on walk machine only prob iodise oil or r iodise is not made anymore 2nd pref
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Post by ray on Sept 24, 2019 16:03:50 GMT 10
thankyou tom I will go back to liniment daily while on walk machine only prob iodise oil or r iodise is not made anymore 2nd pref
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Post by Tom Meulman on Sept 24, 2019 18:50:52 GMT 10
Hi Ray,
Sorry I didn’t get back to you earlier, while I generally check the site daily, at times the internet connection can be very ordinary for me while traveling Australia making it easy to miss a post.
A bit of a problem iodised oil not being available anymore and it’s difficult to find an alternative that can be used for the same purpose.
The only thing worth checking is the function and availability of some of the Chinese made liniments, and the one that I have had the best results with has been Zheng Gu Shui and I have been able to purchase it from time to time in grocery stores selling Chinese specialised food products. I have no doubt you would also be able to purchase this online.
(Zheng Gu Shui (Chinese: 正骨水; literally: 'bone-setting liquid') is a traditional Chinese liniment. This external analgesic is known to relieve qi and blood stagnation, promote healing, and soothe pain. The formula is known as Dit da jow in Cantonese or die da jiu in Mandarin.)
Cheers, Tom
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